Should you measure SEO by its ability to climb a tree?
Hear Mike King's take on all things SEO - how AI is disrupting the space, and how measurement is (or should be) changing for this channel.
Mike King is the founder and CEO of digital marketing agency iPullRank. King's journey from battle rapping with the Wu-Tang Clan to decoding Google's algorithms lays the foundation for a spirited discussion on the future of SEO, the impact of AI on search behavior, and innovative measurement techniques.
Listen as we explore the shift from traditional click-based metrics to more complex, probabilistic methods driven by AI. Learn how SEO is adapting to changes in user behavior, including the rise of AI overviews and the challenges of measuring their impact.
Plus, don't miss King's tips on leveraging advanced tools and strategies to stay ahead in the ever-changing SEO landscape.
00:00 Introduction to Mike King
00:23 Mike King's Early Career and Achievements
00:38 Transition to Digital Marketing
01:08 Future of SEO and Measurement Challenges
01:51 Understanding SEO Metrics
04:36 Google's AI Overviews and User Behavior
05:21 SEO as a Brand Channel
07:45 Challenges in Measuring SEO Effectiveness
09:21 Impact of AI on SEO Traffic
11:49 Evolving SEO Measurement Techniques
18:22 Tools and Strategies for SEO Measurement
25:07 Understanding Query Fan Out and Reasoning in SEO
28:42 Client Education and Shifts in Search Behavior
32:57 Improving Relevance and Content Structure
36:04 Measuring SEO Performance and Authoritativeness
43:25 Sentiment Analysis and Query Fan Out
46:03 Reframing SEO for Better Investment
48:41 Final Thoughts and Incremental Insights